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Sep 2, 5:58 AM
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Welp, the Empire decides to talk to a neutral state, aka Ildoa.

This wasn't a coincidence with the Empire's recent move. As their ally, it seems they didn't want to be involved in any wars at all. Who could go wrong? On the other hand, they managed to nail down Tanya's personality as usual. Seems like a buildup episode.
Sep 2, 7:06 AM
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Amazing episode of Shokugeki no Tanya/Food (during) Wars!

Now let's plan an invasion of the kitchen and capture all the chefs and foods!
Sep 2, 7:10 AM
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Fairly chill episode episode Tanya got to enjoy some decent food In IIdoa it certainly looked better than what she used to get back in the Empire.
Sep 2, 7:48 AM
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just what is the empire doing...

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Sep 2, 8:20 AM
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the food part was reminding me of that ova episode of aot when they prepared food for commander Pixis.

that bag literally bigger then her.
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Sep 2, 8:34 AM
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4:35 Tanya just wants to eat already 🤣🤣🤣

7:00 It’s like I’m watching Food Wars now 🤣

12:00 freaking Visha 🤣
Sep 2, 8:35 AM
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Based on the withered expression, poor Tanya must not have gotten to eat any of the bread. At least she got to indulge in a delicious meal. But, it seems like she's going to talk her way back onto the front line again. If High Leadership asks her about an invasion of Ildoa, she's no doubt going to put forth a proposal of how it can be accomplished rapidly, and naturally it will fall on her mage unit to lead the charge.
Sep 2, 9:05 AM
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well tanya has got some stuff to do again
Sep 2, 9:15 AM
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Destruction of Illdoa?! I really wonder if that will happen
Sep 2, 9:56 AM
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This was a wonderfully relaxing episode!
A vacation around Ildoa is definitely a lovely thing to experience, especially for Tanya, where she gets to eat all this exquisite, highly nutritious food; lmao, her reaction and explanation are adorable, very Shokugeki no Soma-like! In hindsight, this might be the only chance she gets to eat good food in a long time, seeing as how the Empire's resources are exponentially drained from fighting a multi-theatre war. I worry about Tanya's growth. Don't tell me she'll have stunted growth 😭

Regardless, the Ildoan Kingdom's prosperity in times of peace is a huge contrast to the Empire; from their officers to random civilians off the street, everything is brighter and more colourful than it is everywhere else. And if EVEN THE LOGICAL TANYA felt a pang of envious jealousy just from this fact, can you imagine how the Politicians back in the Empire would react knowing how they dream of prosperity themselves? It's no wonder the Empire is looking into invading Ildoa despite them being a 'neutral ally'.

However, as Tanya said herself... "If you're nobody's enemy, you're also nobody's friend"

Relaxing episode, but this ep is the calm before a storm; I can already smell the bloodshed. At least Tanya, Visha and the boys get to have their day of vacation and splurge with Ildoan's money lol!
Sep 2, 10:31 AM
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This anime LOVES food.
And I love it.


Poor Ildoa. Its not looking good for peace...
Sep 2, 10:42 AM
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dang so the higher ups just really forgot that it's an actual war and not just a table top game that takes months or years for things to happen, drunk on too much victories that now things are falling apart they still keep thinking the same cards they used back then would still work.
Sep 2, 11:04 AM

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Finally an episode where I don't spend half of it dozing off at the edge. It is funny how Tanya reacted with some Shokugeki-esque looseness when she tries off Ildoan food. Also, what are up with those trippy dream sequences, it really made me laugh. But alas, Ildoa is peaceful, and in some way, Tanya feels jealous of the situation and wants to "surrender". And though we didn't see much of the rest of the mages, deep inside, everyone enjoyed their stay in a place that actually has peace.

By this point, we seem to have an idea that a third season is coming after this, considering that this has been a very slow-paced season if you watch it week by week. As an anime-only onlooker, I can only imagine how the light novels went about. If it was laid out with this kind of pace, then the anime crew did its job in adapting this season that has been full of build-up in the middle of some fireworks.

Yet, in 2026, Youjo Senki has been that kind of show, it still has its action-packed sequences and some comedic sequences here and there. Yet, just like the Empire's situation, it has been some dog days. When there's no action and the awkward comedy in-between, all you get is dread, overthinking, and some dissent, as the war continues to go longer and longer and longer.
Sep 2, 11:57 AM

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Calm ep

Looks like Ildoa has everything that the Empire envisions for themselves. Literally everything is of a higher quality than anything the Empire produces.

Tho, their neutrality ploy is too obvious to Tanya.

Bro ain't wrong. Not everything seen is the only thing out there.

Considering how stupid the Empire can be, an attempt to subdue Ildoa can definitely happen.

8/10




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Sep 2, 12:05 PM

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Alright, I had to check to make sure I was watching the right show. Unlike in most animes though, the sudden genre shift to Gourmet actually serves a purpose here. Ildoa claims they're an ally to the Empire, but these luxurious conditions prove that they've taken on none of the hardships of the war. Ready or not, war will come to them, but the sheer stupidity of the Empire being the one to bring it is difficult to express. No doubt the politicians think they can just walk in and conquer the place for themselves.
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Sep 2, 12:16 PM

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Off topic -ish but I'm surprised Shokugeki no Soma doesn't come up more when we discuss anime that define the industry. You can find its DNA in pretty much every food scene nowadays.
Sep 2, 12:22 PM
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Thought I was watching shokugeki no Tanya at the begining there but it just shows how prosperous a land without war can be but unfortunately everything was hinting at Ildoa getting dragged into the war and yeah that's exactly what's gonna happen. The worst thing about war is how quickly it spreads. Post credit scene was hilarious btw.
Sep 2, 12:31 PM
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Jealousy is a green-eyed monster. War is coming to the land that is "Nobody's Enemy" . I don't think that gambit actually worked for anyone except Switzerland in the REAL World during both World Wars. Even then they played off banks, etc. similar to here.
Sep 2, 12:37 PM

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Tanya gets several tastes of that for which she strives, but back in the Empire her hopes are suffocated again.
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Sep 2, 1:12 PM

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“If you’re nobody’s enemy, you’re nobody’s friend”

Think this is the first time we’ve ever seen Tanya be genuinely jealous? And who could blame her for getting angry at the ildoans? What was even the point of them inviting the empire to tour the capital besides showing off and bragging that their country is flourishing, has ample delicious food, not burying the dead etc., while the empire is on the verge of collapse? Tanya just got back from a deployment where they only had rations to eat and these mfs getting fat on seafood and pasta.

Feels like they just wanna larp as allies or being in a war, but they’re not actively contributing and even when they do, it’s half assed so they’re edging their bets in case the empire loses so they haven’t pissed of the United Kingdom and the federation. With friends like those who needs enemies?

“The reality is we’re doomed”

Well, at least someone in the empire has a brain. I honestly don’t really hate the conquering Ildoa sentiment from leadership, but tactically it’s a disaster waiting to happen and politically it would be far better to convince them to finally help out rather than betraying your ally and occupying them which would foment more hate for the empire and create the risk of rebellion in occupied territory.

The empire are already stretched thin so risking opening another front of conflict is just too risky. The leadership’s dreams of reparations and conquered lands is also so out of touch with reality, I really feel for Zettour, Tanya and everyone else that’s actually on the ground and being used as pawns by an incompetent group of rich old politicians who’ve never fought a war. Sound familiar? War never changes.
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Sep 2, 1:12 PM
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Bruh, literally if the higher leadership would cease to exist, this all show would be over lol... They exist just to make a forever war happen and to make Tanya even more unhinged and now she literally says to the military boss that this all shit is doomed... And now they wish to conquer some territory from Ildoa, in the south, like they are not fighting and barely keeping up 3 fronts together... Bruh, why is no one doing an inside job on these fuckers at this point??? Literally smuggle the unhinged blondie into the capital and let her loose lol...

I just wish that they gave this high leadership guys a face, so that we know who needs to die asap next time we see it!
Sep 2, 1:20 PM
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I hope the growing schism between the politicians dreams and the grim reality of the army's front lines leads to more substantial conflict on the homefront at some point, perhaps even a coup.
Sep 2, 1:28 PM

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Aaaah. How much money do I need to throw at the studio to make a complete Shokugeki no Tanya spin off series?

Seeing her enjoy what Ildoa had on offer was pretty nice to see and how much of a contrast it is to the daily life here compared to the Empire. I can't blame Tanya's soldier for not wanting to leave after they enjoyed their break here as well.

Sadly, the reality of war has to rear its ugly head back in once again and I can't blame Tanya for her reaction after hearing about the higher ups considering an invasion of Ildoa. Honestly it feels like an inevitability that Ildoa will be invaded. Just a matter of when, not if. This episode, overall, captures that calm before the storm feeling rather perfectly.
Sep 2, 2:44 PM
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Even if you're victorious, or did managed to survive. Attacking your only ally and swallowing them isn't gonna look favourable to your enemies, your own troops and people, and history.
However, given how dire things are with the war. You're either with us or against us, pick a side. Allowing a new front to open up, or your ally leaking information to your enemies.
It's a bold move, one I can understand, leadership is asking too much.

Tanya was holding several litres of wine, how is that small thing holding that much.
Sep 2, 2:59 PM

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impossible to hate Tanya
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Sep 2, 3:10 PM

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While I do enjoy these slower episodes too, this season overall is just a bit boring compared to S1.

With the talks from Reruden earlier I actually expected them to launch a surprise attack on Ildoa here.
That, or possible try a military coup in the empire..

Kinda funny that its the military which wants to end the war ASAP considering real ww1.

Though Rudersdorf is the one to blame, he said full of conviction he could bring the empire victory.

I actually wonder where the ressources from taking western europe are. I would expect those to only rise with post war governments in place.
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Sep 2, 3:12 PM

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Even if you're victorious, or did managed to survive. Attacking your only ally and swallowing them isn't gonna look favourable to your enemies, your own troops and people, and history.
However, given how dire things are with the war. You're either with us or against us, pick a side. Allowing a new front to open up, or your ally leaking information to your enemies.
It's a bold move, one I can understand, leadership is asking too much.

Tanya was holding several litres of wine, how is that small thing holding that much.
@Invade_le_yogurt its actually really stupid. Especially when Ildoa is indeed secretly supplying them fuel.

Keep in mind they just pulled out of africa. Ildoa atleast is a neutral country, so no enemy will come through it. Take it over and suddenly you have to garrison all of Ildoa because its all coastline and the enemy has naval superiority.
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Sep 2, 3:16 PM

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“If you’re nobody’s enemy, you’re nobody’s friend”

Think this is the first time we’ve ever seen Tanya be genuinely jealous? And who could blame her for getting angry at the ildoans? What was even the point of them inviting the empire to tour the capital besides showing off and bragging that their country is flourishing, has ample delicious food, not burying the dead etc., while the empire is on the verge of collapse? Tanya just got back from a deployment where they only had rations to eat and these mfs getting fat on seafood and pasta.

Feels like they just wanna larp as allies or being in a war, but they’re not actively contributing and even when they do, it’s half assed so they’re edging their bets in case the empire loses so they haven’t pissed of the United Kingdom and the federation. With friends like those who needs enemies?

“The reality is we’re doomed”

Well, at least someone in the empire has a brain. I honestly don’t really hate the conquering Ildoa sentiment from leadership, but tactically it’s a disaster waiting to happen and politically it would be far better to convince them to finally help out rather than betraying your ally and occupying them which would foment more hate for the empire and create the risk of rebellion in occupied territory.

The empire are already stretched thin so risking opening another front of conflict is just too risky. The leadership’s dreams of reparations and conquered lands is also so out of touch with reality, I really feel for Zettour, Tanya and everyone else that’s actually on the ground and being used as pawns by an incompetent group of rich old politicians who’ve never fought a war. Sound familiar? War never changes.
@Marinate1016 yeah narrarively I dont get it either. The empire wanted to intimidate Ildoa with a dozen dudes?
Atleast I see Ildoas point here, they already offered peace for the empire and they declined, this is basically them saying "focus on self improvement, look how much better off you could be".

Though I dont get why they claim to be allies while also claiming neutrality.
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Sep 2, 3:56 PM

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"If you're no one's enemy, you're also no one's friend." Looks like Ildoa's potentially about to learn that the hard way. It sucks cos even if they've been very slimy about avoiding making their alliance with the empire official when it matters and are enjoying the benefits of peace at the empire's cost, they don't deserve to become the victims of an ever-expanding belligerent power and get dragged into such a destructive and bloody war.

Although, isn't it a bit silly for the empire to be considering opening up a new theatre of war against a declared neutral power, even if their opponent is wholly unprepared for war, given their current situation? Surely the Western allies wouldn't just let them take over Ildoa, or fail to take advantage of their split military force.

Also, how on earth is Tanya carrying a completely stuffed rucksack about the size of her own body so casually at end lol?
Sep 2, 4:07 PM

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True.

I went abroad and bought everything I thought I needed to stuff two suitcases. Then, back to my lovely country with its dictatorial regime and awful reality, yet filled to the brim with oil... Ahh, nothing like home, right, Tanya?
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Sep 2, 5:57 PM

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Those food scenes were pretty funny.
Tanya was doing the rounds this episode, she had to see so many people.
That was a tense final discussion, they are screwed but might have a chance if they invade and take over Ildoa.
Sep 2, 5:57 PM
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Yea this season definitely hasn’t matched the quality of S1 the sluggish pacing and uninspired story with characters as deep as a puddle is really dragging down solid production quality
Sep 2, 6:49 PM

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the food part was reminding me of that ova episode of aot when they prepared food for commander Pixis.

that bag literally bigger then her.
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Same as you. It reminded me of that OVA of AOT... and even today I consider it was peak.

You know an anime is great when even the full-dialogue episodes are entertaining. You just enjoy watching the characters.
Sep 2, 8:47 PM
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I wonder why can't Tanya just flee from the battlefield to Illdoa they'll treat her much better and empire will definitely lose after losing it's best soldier.
Sep 2, 9:15 PM

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I wonder why can't Tanya just flee from the battlefield to Illdoa they'll treat her much better and empire will definitely lose after losing it's best soldier.
@M_K1966 lol, you think Sonzai X will let her be when X is the main reason that pull her to the front and center of the war?
Sep 2, 10:17 PM

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"If you're nobody's enemy, you're also nobody's friend."
I can't believe Tanya actually predicted that Ildora is being considered a target for conquest, are high command all right?
Sep 2, 11:07 PM

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I was thinking Tanya would come up with some false flag attack plan on Illdoa to trick them into joining the war on the Empire's side. But that does not seem likely.
Sep 2, 11:26 PM
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It's hard being a patriotic soldier when your top leadership are buffoons


Ildoa is doing right with their strategic neutrality. They're after all holding an important gateway to the mainland while being neighbors to a warmongering empire.
Sep 3, 1:50 AM
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Well, Ildoa pulled out all the stops for that dinner on the train, for besides all of the great food, they made a freaking posh HIGH CHAIR for Tanya to sit on. Also, one has learned to not EVEN try to out-gamble or out-drink Visha, for she will clean one's clock.
Sep 3, 1:54 AM

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Tanya getting to enjoy good food is super cute. A shame about Ildoa. Sanzai X definitely won't let her keep her new friends.
Sep 3, 6:06 AM
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I was interested more in other ways of exploring the differences between Ildoa and the Empire and less of the first part of this episode. I got the idea of what it was telling me but it was just too long. Loved the rest though.
Sep 3, 7:49 AM

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there are a crapton of 'lil nuggets of wisdom' you gain from studying military history/science as well as the general subject of world history.

one of the oldest ones, Napoleon himself illustrated this one when he totally messed up... 'Never invade Russia in the Winter.' well, this one actually means never get anywhere near Russia in the Winter. period. ever. don't invade. don't occupy. don't defend. stay the heck away from there as much as possible.

another one LOTS of soldiers and generals etc. have figured out... TONS of times... but these buffoons in 'the high leadership' of the government Tanya has to answer to have totally ignored... 'Never fight a two front war.' now The Empire has a Northern Front, a Western Front, and an Eastern Front... annnd the morons are exploring a Southern Front?

with!? all these problems i'm about to list, they want a NEW offensive into 'Italy'?

they can't keep their countrymen fed at home without rations. no fresh bread and no fresh meat and no fresh veggies.

their infrastructure systems are crumbling due to lack of maintenance and improvements. the rail systems are falling apart.

their logistical and support leaders in the military supply command structure are failing miserably. one guy, ONE guy in high command gets 'shipped to the front' and that entire offensive operation goes pfffffftthhh like a balloon with a leak because not enough beans bullets and boots made it to the troops.

the tactical and strategic command system is broken utterly. while she's away on her 'friendship trip', Tanya's two officers are arrested and then freed. when those guys' superiors couldn't think 'outside the box' fast or accurately enough to listen to the soldiers in-place and let them fight properly. so, her two guys take initiative and keep everybody's bacon from being burnt to black ash and they still get arrested?

Tanya's statement during her chat with the general was entirely correct. They're doomed.
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Sep 3, 10:02 AM
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Well in this world Ildoa only provided supplies to the empire but never fought alongside them. Still a country that has never known war was a nice contrast to the empire. Visha sure can hold her beer. Im glad that they enjoyed their day at Ildoa. Disconnects between reality for those in the rear is all too common. Senior leaderships warped desires would be the death of the empire one day. Visha needn't fret Tanya bought far more lol.
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Sep 3, 8:12 PM

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I too have such a reaction to bread, Tanya is just like me for real.
Sep 4, 6:33 AM

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The first half is a shokugeki no soma episode lol

I fucking knew it! They've been giving hints that they wanna take over Ildoa since 2 episodes ago
Sep 4, 7:25 AM

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This episode is excellent for illustrating Tanya's moral character: she is neither drawn to chaos nor driven to avoid it at all costs; she feels concern just as anyone else would, yet she always evaluates the causal factors involved. This explains why her perspective on Ildoa seems contradictory: she detests the populace's ignorance regarding events outside their country, yet she acknowledges that the roots of this social phenomenon do not warrant making an entire civilization suffer. It differs from the alienation in the name of ''progress'' found in the Empire, or the alienation for "just cause" seen in the Russian Federation.
Sep 4, 5:45 PM
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The first time Tanya pondered desertion XD
Sep 4, 6:01 PM

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Once again, the OST was excellent. The scenes tasting the Ildoan food were perfectly done.

The composer is doing a nice work with the tracks for dialogue and calm-reflexive scenes like in this episode and ep 7.
Still need to improve with the tracks for action scenes (that doesn't mean they are bad though).
Sep 5, 7:23 AM

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Not that much happend this episode, mostly pleasantries and politics. I guess every anime these days needs a Food Wars episode xD
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Wow what a change in Tanya!? I was not expecting this much of a change from her in general throughout the series, heck this episode and season say enough about that. This episode really gave us the luxury to look at Tanya as a well human again, less comedy, still there and I love how the storyline, creators and story progresses there, but beautiful!
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